I've also said several times he's not blue level. Playing Xenovoerse on PS4 PSN Tag: Dualist721. I guess saying that Gohan and Gotenks was close is wrong despite Trunks' statement. Super Buu + Gohan - since ultimate Gohan > any Z fighter including Goku, he became the strongest of them all, they needed Vegito just to deal with him, that should give you a hint how strong he was. Goku was completely unwilling to fight Super Buu and tried to quickly resort to Potara Fusion with both Gohan and Vegeta. Gordo solos David "Gordo" Gordon. Dragonball Z Kai Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku vs Super buu - Duration: 1:17. Would still be able to put up some kind of a fight. he states that he and Gohan together can defeat base Super Buu with little trouble. @panda_emperorix: Yes. I would say Goten and Trunks are about 1/4 as strong as Vegeta or Goku. The only point where Gohan is clearly in another league is for one major fight about 200 episodes in, after which time 7 years pass, with Goku training almost constantly and Gohan not training at all, so Goku takes the lead again. It’s not even that. It's reasonably likely Gohan is equal to Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. Super Boo with Gohan and Gotenks Vs. Janemba. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!! How Strong is Ultimate Gohan. Fight takes place in hell R1: In character. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! Boo gets stronger than Gohan by absorbing Gotenks, and even stronger than that by absorbing Gohan. Son Gohan as a Super Saiyan. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Hirudegarn's legs were not even fully transformed yet. Goku passing the torch onto Gohan during the Cell Games is a clear actualization of this philosophy, bringing one of Dragon Ball ’s … Buutenks was obviously stronger than Gohan, but Gohan was fighting incredibly sloppy and making far too many mistakes. The DBZ Movie characters have ways been a lot stronger than they were during the time in the canon that they came out. Yes, while Goku exploded his weakness to intense emotion. Is super vegetto actually perfected ssj3? Hiruedgarn doesn't any feats to compete with him. Actually Gohan is stronger, but not by far. As I said before, SSJ3 Goku had to weaken him and he used an attack that hits far above his pay grade aswell (Dragon Fist). Here's how it works. 3 years ago. ! For the best answers, search on this site https://shorturl.im/WMPQ4. Obviously Gohan putting the Potara on would have fused Goku and Gohan into Gokhan or whatever you want to call him but this fusion is permanent and would cease the existence of both Goku and Gohan and so should be a last resort. Where Gohan was once in complete control of the fight, ready to kill Evil Buu at any point, Buutenks … Max equal power levels added together and multiplied by 2 is the base fusion. It's weird. 9 Broly Utterly Ruined Gohan And what do you think of Buu possibly absorbing Hirudegarn? Hirudegarn also one shot Ultimate Gohan with his incomplete legs. The Super Saiyan 2s and Gotenks were more impressive than he was. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Piccolo puts on an even greater display of his power in the lead-up to the Tournament of Power by … And then we get a stronger majin later in Buuhan. Movie characters are stronger then anime versions of the same era like ssj3 is universe level in the janemba movie but in the anime no such feats or scaling happens in regards to super saiyan 3 goku. Buutenks doesn't have Easiest scaling is assuming Ultra is 1.5x Super Saiyan's power. Yes, he can hang, but that was still a sparring match. The idea that the next generation will alway be stronger than the last is one that Dragon Ball hammers in as early as the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai. Gohan obtained the Super Saiyan transformation while training with his father in the Room of Spirit and Time.Gohan achieved the form with more ease than his Saiyan peers at the time due to inheriting a large number of S Cells from Gokū. Gohan uses his full power and pushes Kefla to her limit. "When he at the mic you don't go next" MF DOOM. @wushu59: It didn't give Vegito any trouble because he didn't have to tank it. It's literally Goku's Godblast along with Spirit Bomb aswell. Buuhan is wayyyy stronger. If you accept V Jump statements as usable, Buuhan is stated to be as strong as SS3, and the only way this would be consistent if it's referring to EoZ SS3 otherwise it's ridiculous. Gohan is not stronger than Buutenks. 20.11%. I always took the “he looks mentally weakened” quote as the moment he sensed Gohan, he did say that he sensed Gohan even before Gohan was done powering up. Anime Goku performed much better than Gohan against Buutenks. It was generally believed that, with the way his new-found power worked, that Gohan's Ki was pushed beyond it's normal limitations, "limit-breaker" if you will... aha. If you accepted that, then Hirudegarn would logically stomp considering he was able to give post Buu Saga SS3 Goku a hell of a fight. Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. Janemba also has much better reality warping feats than Buu could hope to imagine. Buuhan was stronger than Buutenks only because there was no time limit. The anime plays up Gohan’s role as the lead with a bit more gusto, including a shot between Gohan & Buutenks that directly references Goku & Vegeta’s fight from the Saiyan arc. On a side note, Super Buu is in fact the "alternative" version of Kid Buu with the Grand Supreme Kai absorbed. @YahBoyGoku shared a post on Instagram: “Super GOKHAN vs BuuTenks ( art credit @chry_insi_art )” • Follow their account to see 3,812 posts. His conclusion was that Buu Saga Goku gained a huge amount of Zenkais to surpass Buuhan. Didn't Hirudegarn go down to a dragon fist from Ssj3 Goku? 'd in a few seconds. Goke implied that his power was far beyond Buus and he was able to put up a really good fight against Buutenks in the anime at least. @panda_emperorix: Yes. Considering the struggles that Goku goes through with Frost, it appears that Piccolo is more powerful than Goku's base form, but perhaps not any stronger than that. So, it was L A T E R proven to be F A L S E that B U U T E N K S is the S T R O N G E S T majin. Like more powerful, miniature dodonpas, basically. (35 votes) 35. We haven't even gotten into the comparison between Gohan, Goku and Gotenks. Though Gohan had gotten much weaker due to not training after the Cell Games, he became stronger than he ever has after his potential was unlocked from Old Kaiō-shin. That doesn't mean Buu can beat him with it. If Super Buu is 50 then Gotenks is 80 and Gohan is 100. Actually, he was. Exactly, Dragon Fist is literally like, Goku at his absolute and utter peak and not a level of power he can actively output. I dunno man I'm not thinking clearly atm and am using my 14 hour work day as an excuse to bail. He asked to fight Son Goten and Trunks, and after trying to stall him (during which time Super Buu unleashed the Human Extinction Attack and k… branxanny. I mean it would be a lot smarter for Trunks and Goten to fuse and became gotenks ssj3 and give … Another point to see is that present Trunks (kid version) is stronger than … By the logic of literally adding Ultimate Gohan's power on top of his power that was already greater Gohan shows Super Saiyan 2 is far stronger than Ultra even in just raw power on top of speed. Kid Buu ≈ SSJ3 Goku < SSJ3 Gotenks ≈ Super Buu < Mystic Gohan. And the version of Goku who fought Hirudegarn was the strongest he could have been before GT. Whay:because if gohan was stronger then him(goku) he could have iT GOHAN TO FIGHT KID BUU. Here's how it works. I still think SBuu is stronger than MAXIMUM Gotenks who I also think isn't that much stronger than Goku if at all. Gohan does become stronger than Goku, but not necessarily significantly so. Sep 10, 2020 #11 OLK said: Gohan survived a full episode Click to expand... Because Buu said he was holding back … remember Gotenks and Gohan both dominated base Super Buu but couldn't kill him. We haven't even gotten into the comparison between Gohan, Goku and Gotenks. 3:24. At the minimum, he's stacking Gohan's entire power on to his own, which should be enough to oneshot, Could be even more then that, if we use the fusion multiplier logic, I think it's safer to go with the guy with better feats, Buuhan's Dimension Shatter is pretty much above any feat of Hirudegarn, Even Vegito had to get serious at that moment. It is clear that his human blood causes him to think more rationally and care less for fighting than … Because Buuhan is stronger than Buutenks, who at that time, was the strongest majin. Even IF Hirudegarn can't do that despite SSJ3 Gotenks being able to replicate the feat on a smaller level. Hirudegarn literally just squeezed Gohan and got K.O. More than anything, Gohan’s defeat here is a great narrative tool. Click to expand... Not really. And yet he didn't. The Androids should've been no stronger than, at best, initial Freeza. Another update, another new Banner for Dragon Ball Legends, featuring Ultimate Gohan and Buutenks, a pair that might make you recall their very short Dragon Ball Z fight, however this Ultimate Gohan variant is from Dragon Ball Super instead, an interesting choice considering Gohan’s adventures in DBS are not really worth remembering. Tank and Hard hitter Very High Hard Hitter (11 ki SA!) 34w 1 like Reply. There would be a comparable fight to Gohan vs Buutenks. Hirudegarn oneshotted Mystic Gohan, which Boohan could do as well. However Kid buu is stronger than Super buu in anime In Anime Goku was Confident he could Fight base Super Buu. @wushu59: Because fusion was needed to defeat Janemba. Lol. Gohan with this power up was even stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks since he was able to dominate Super Buu with ease without transforming. 17 isn't there either. This is however proven to be false. But now that I think about it it's more about him just not being able to teleport around rather than affecting his durability. In reality Gohan is the son of El Grande Padrewho saw in him great power (far too great) and feared he would be overthrown as the ruler of the Universe and he sought to kill him. Now let's compare that to Gohan vs Hirudegarn. Buuhan is obviously much more powerful then the former. Trunks cocky statement means little to me personally. He just got out of his cocoon and oneshotted Gotenks before that. No. @wushu59: I disagree completely. Super Buu + Gotenks - stronger than Super Buu due the fact that that he absorbed a handful raw force, i cant remember, does Buutenks runs out of time? There's no way Buuhan could one shot Buutenks like he did to an off guard Tien. How else can I explain this? Gohan’s defeat also allows Super Saiyan God to come off all the better. Even though Dragon Ball ends with Gohan as the strongest unfused character, he’s not so much overpowered at the end of the Buu arc as he is just stronger than anyone else around. Gotenks wrecked Super Buu once he went all out, but Gohan wrecked Super Buu without even trying. I was very disappointed in his performance . The only proof that says that Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu is found within the old english dub and shoddy fan translations of the manga. As it is, present Trunks only does gravity training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, and only for a little bit. Goku said that there was a guy called Cell a few years back and that Dabura is about the same strength as him. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Buuhan scales massively above SSJ3 DBZ Goku so Buuhn ahould win, Hirudegarn seem to be the most unmemorable villain of the super saiyan era. Hirudegarn should win via movie scaling and the fact he beat movie ultimate Gohan. Gotenks was equal with super buu that it was far stronger than super buu.And ofcorse Gohan that was stronger than Gotenks is obvious that was also stronger than Super Buu. Hirudegarn lacks feats to win here, he only wins if he scales to other movie characters. Dabura was never said to be as strong as Perfect Cell before self-desctructing. Piccolo, Goten, and Super Buu all said Gohan was Stronger during the Buu Saga, but Kid Trunks Said SSJ3 Gotenks was close to Gohan’s power. I doubt Buutenks would fodderize Mystic Gohan the same way Hirudegarn did. Why does the anime version lose? So he becomes Buutenks and he outclass SSJ3 Goku and Gohan to the point where Goku does not even consider fighting Buutenks and goes for potara , … But still, IMO EoZ Goku like the final moments where he powers up into SS1 for the last time is the strongest character in Z, stronger than any version of Buu, so still going with Hirudegarn. Buutenks can ran out of time R2: Bloodlusted match. As someone mentioned earlier. In the manga, Gohan goes up against Kefla, the fusion of the two Universe 6 Saiyans, Caulifla and Kale. This is them in the Buu saga (Kid Buu to be exact). Perhaps I overstated that gap yeah. Also Janemba would definitely be a lot stronger than Buuhan. Here is evidence of Super Buu being stronger than Kid Buu. Although Gohan thinks little of it at the time, Goku claims he wants to train Gohan to be even stronger than him. That doesn't mean that Hirudegarn is weaker than Buu though. Liam Miller Productions 86,277 views. Perfect Cell – 900 Million – Stated in data books. Super Buu is outclassed By Gohan. Some of the stuff you said isn't quite true (I haven't gotten that far in the anime yet, but I own the manga). Buuhan wins. Since, there is no way to calculate how strong fusion is, we substitute this formula. 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